Obtaining a 40/40 set? - Guild Wars Forums

Fi Kumiko · Jun 15, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49

Alright I know that you can get a 20 % HCT and HSR on an off hand item.

Though it might be obvious as daylight, I can only find a 20% HSR but no HCT for the mainhand. What upgrade,inscription etc. Do I need to get 20/20 on the wand/rod?

Pesi · Jun 15, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

focus core of aptitude (upgrade)
Forget me not (inscription, 20% sell for about 20k)

Fi Kumiko · Jun 15, 2008, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Thank you, least I now know what to get.

tmakinen · Jun 15, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Hmm ... it looks to me that the answer was inaccurate. The OP asked about the 20/20 set for a wand, and was given the ingredients for a focus.

A 20/20 wand requires:
Wand Wrapping of Memory (1-2k)
"Aptitude not Attitude" inscription (6-7k)

A 20/20 focus requires:
Focus Core of Aptitude (1-2k)
"Forget Me Not" inscription (20-25k)

zelgadissan · Jun 15, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Tmakinen is correct. Specifically the "Aptitude not Attitude" inscription is what does your 20% HCT.

Fi Kumiko · Jun 15, 2008, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Ok that clears it up a bit more. Still haven't gotten all the inscriptions figured out lol. Thanks for the help everyone.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jun 15, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

You can get collecter weapons that have 20/20 near the end of factions, If you wanna save some money.

Nightow · Jun 15, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13

20/20 weapons are also available as end game greens in EotN.

Trenixz · Jun 15, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

There are also collectors in the southern shiverpeaks and the crystal desert with 20/20 weapons/offhands

Chthon · Jun 15, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by tmakinen

Hmm ... it looks to me that the answer was inaccurate. The OP asked about the 20/20 set for a wand, and was given the ingredients for a focus.

A 20/20 wand requires:
Wand Wrapping of Memory (1-2k)
"Aptitude not Attitude" inscription (6-7k)

A 20/20 focus requires:
Focus Core of Aptitude (1-2k)
"Forget Me Not" inscription (20-25k)

This is correct, however, I should point out that 20/20 foci are available from collectors in both Prophecies and Factions essentially for free, and 20/20 wands can be crafted in Faction at Leviathan Pits/Vasburg Armory for 5k plus materials. Unless you really care about looks, the collector focus + crafter wand is a better deal than building it yourself. If you don't have access to Factions, many people on the forums, myself included, would be happy to craft a wand for you at no cost if you provide the 5k and the materials.

malko050987 · Jun 16, 2008, 05:51 AM // 05:51

The Wands and Foci from Endgame EotN are also 20/20, so you can build a 40/40 set from there. It might cost you more than crafting them in Factions, though, depending on how much a Droks Key is these days.

NYC Elite · Jun 16, 2008, 12:51 PM // 12:51

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Originally Posted by malko050987

The Wands and Foci from Endgame EotN are also 20/20, so you can build a 40/40 set from there. It might cost you more than crafting them in Factions, though, depending on how much a Droks Key is these days.

Eh, they're ~5-10k each (the former and a medium more so than the latter). Beats crafting a set and busting out ~25-30k total for just mods, not counting the weapons.

Voltar · Jun 16, 2008, 01:09 PM // 13:09

It's probably good to mention that they don't seem to stack additively...i.e., you don't get 40/40. What happens is 2 separate 20% chances.

azizul1975 · Jun 17, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

yup..it is actually 36%/36% set ( 20% probability from weapon + 16% probability from "not getting from weapon but getting it from focus item i.e. 0.8x0.2" )

Shaz · Jun 17, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36

As other have said, if you do not care about the skin too much, it is easier and cheaper to use green and weapon crafter to obtain 40/40 set through out all the campaigns.

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Originally Posted by azizul1975

yup..it is actually 36%/36% set ( 20% probability from weapon + 16% probability from "not getting from weapon but getting it from focus item i.e. 0.8x0.2" )

Yea, but it's easier to say 40/40, and more people know what that mean than 36/36. And it actually 38/36, 38% net HCT and 36% net HSR, if you want to get exact number.

N E D M · Jun 17, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Originally Posted by Shaz

As other have said, if you do not care about the skin too much, it is easier and cheaper to use green and weapon crafter to obtain 40/40 set through out all the campaigns.

Yea, but it's easier to say 40/40, and more people know what that mean than 36/36. And it actually 38/36, 38% net HCT and 36% net HSR, if you want to get exact number.

lol why would one be 38% and one be 36%?
(they are both at 34% with something like 4% chance of double, if i remember correctly)

Shaz · Jun 17, 2008, 04:13 AM // 04:13

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Originally Posted by N E D M

lol why would one be 38% and one be 36%?
(they are both at 34% with something like 4% chance of double, if i remember correctly)

Because you can get QCT with both triggering, while HSR is capped at 50% so you can't get QSR, it's one or the other, focus or wand will trigger only.

azizul1975 · Jun 17, 2008, 04:22 AM // 04:22

emmm.. i found this . hopefully will clear things up.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/40/40

however, what if you have a staff with 2 HCT modifier e.g. the nightbringer ? will it give u 40% chance or 36% ? it is on the same equipment....

ALF71BE · Jun 17, 2008, 04:57 AM // 04:57

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Originally Posted by azizul1975

emmm.. i found this . hopefully will clear things up.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/40/40

however, what if you have a staff with 2 HCT modifier e.g. the nightbringer ? will it give u 40% chance or 36% ? it is on the same equipment....

Same thing, 32% to HCT and 4% chance to QCT. It's not 34%, not 38%. Doe the HSR, it's 36%.

Should be noted that if you want a 40% HCT on a staff, it's an "Aptitude not Attitude" inscription (it's for spellcasting weapons) and an Adept Staff Head. Now I'm guessing that 10% HCT staffs (those that drop commonly all over Factions and Prophecies) + 20% from the Adept Staff Head, would give you a 26% of HCT + QCT? Or what?

Jun 15, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49	#1
Fi Kumiko Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2008 Location: Missouri Profession: Mo/	Obtaining a 40/40 set? Alright I know that you can get a 20 % HCT and HSR on an off hand item. Though it might be obvious as daylight, I can only find a 20% HSR but no HCT for the mainhand. What upgrade,inscription etc. Do I need to get 20/20 on the wand/rod?

Jun 17, 2008, 04:22 AM // 04:22	#18
azizul1975 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GMT+8 Guild: The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO) Profession: Mo/	emmm.. i found this . hopefully will clear things up. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/40/40 however, what if you have a staff with 2 HCT modifier e.g. the nightbringer ? will it give u 40% chance or 36% ? it is on the same equipment.... Last edited by azizul1975; Jun 17, 2008 at 04:32 AM // 04:32..

Jun 15, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52	#2
Pesi Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Droknars Forge Guild: No Goats No Glory Profession: Me/	focus core of aptitude (upgrade) Forget me not (inscription, 20% sell for about 20k)

Jun 15, 2008, 06:54 PM // 18:54	#3
Fi Kumiko Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2008 Location: Missouri Profession: Mo/	Thank you, least I now know what to get.

Jun 15, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03	#4
tmakinen Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: www.mybearfriend.net Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: E/	Hmm ... it looks to me that the answer was inaccurate. The OP asked about the 20/20 set for a wand, and was given the ingredients for a focus. A 20/20 wand requires: Wand Wrapping of Memory (1-2k) "Aptitude not Attitude" inscription (6-7k) A 20/20 focus requires: Focus Core of Aptitude (1-2k) "Forget Me Not" inscription (20-25k)

Jun 15, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#5
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	Tmakinen is correct. Specifically the "Aptitude not Attitude" inscription is what does your 20% HCT.

Jun 15, 2008, 07:51 PM // 19:51	#6
Fi Kumiko Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2008 Location: Missouri Profession: Mo/	Ok that clears it up a bit more. Still haven't gotten all the inscriptions figured out lol. Thanks for the help everyone.

Jun 15, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08	#7
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	You can get collecter weapons that have 20/20 near the end of factions, If you wanna save some money.

Jun 15, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13	#8
Nightow Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]	20/20 weapons are also available as end game greens in EotN.

Jun 15, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26	#9
Trenixz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2008 Profession: A/	There are also collectors in the southern shiverpeaks and the crystal desert with 20/20 weapons/offhands

Jun 16, 2008, 05:51 AM // 05:51	#11
malko050987 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arad, Romania Guild: The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting! Profession: R/	The Wands and Foci from Endgame EotN are also 20/20, so you can build a 40/40 set from there. It might cost you more than crafting them in Factions, though, depending on how much a Droks Key is these days.

Jun 16, 2008, 01:09 PM // 13:09	#13
Voltar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006 Location: My dog let's me crash at her place. Guild: POB Profession: R/	It's probably good to mention that they don't seem to stack additively...i.e., you don't get 40/40. What happens is 2 separate 20% chances.

Jun 17, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16	#14
azizul1975 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GMT+8 Guild: The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO) Profession: Mo/	yup..it is actually 36%/36% set ( 20% probability from weapon + 16% probability from "not getting from weapon but getting it from focus item i.e. 0.8x0.2" )